By The Pentavus (Karonasservant) on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 11:26 am:

Right. This is where it gets weirder.
Most gold creatures are in fact creatures, vampires.
Card Mechanics = Climbing and place.
Climbing = Climbing creature can only be blocked by climbers or flyers.
Place = you can only control one place at a time. All other players may play place cards, but only one they are allowed to control.

These suck, but warning now, ULTRA silly and stupid card coming up under place. All places are the mysterious Purple color (yes, purple!)

By The Pentavus (Karonasservant) on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 11:28 am:

Card Name: Chronoplast
Card Color:
Mana Cost: 0
Type & Class: Place
Pow/Tou:
Card Text: As an additional cost to play Chronoplast, pay P.
Chronoplast can't be the target of spells or abilities.
Chronoplast doesn't untap during its controller's untap step.
P, T: Choose an oppoent. You and your oppoent take control of each others turn as long as this card remains tapped. (means you don't control your own turn anymore!)
Flavor Text:
Artist:
Rarity: R
Card #: 160/163

Card Name: Dark Eden
Card Color:
Mana Cost: 0
Type & Class: Place
Pow/Tou:
Card Text: All Vampire creatures you control gain "Whenever a creature dealt damage by this creature this turn is put into the graveyard, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature".
Flavor Text:
Artist:
Rarity: R
Card #: 161/163

Card Name: Drowned Abbey
Card Color:
Mana Cost: 0
Type & Class: Place
Pow/Tou:
Card Text: All Rahabims and Rahab lose Islandhome.
They may attack defending player as if the player has a island in play.
Flavor Text:
Artist:
Rarity: R
Card #: 162/163

Card Name: Silenced Cathredral
Card Color:
Mana Cost: 0
Type & Class: Place
Pow/Tou:
Card Text: All Climbing creatures cannot be blocked by Flying creatures.
All Flying creatures can be blocked by Climbing creatures.
Flavor Text:
Artist:
Rarity: R
Card #: 163/163

By The Pentavus (Karonasservant) on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 11:30 am:

Card Name: Desperation Act
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: WUBRG
Type & Class: Enchantment
Pow/Tou:
Card Text: At the beginning of your upkeep, if you have 1 life or less , you win the game.
Flavor Text:
Artist:
Rarity: R
Card #: 125/163

Card Name: Dumah
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: 3GUB
Type & Class: Creature - Vampire Legend
Pow/Tou: 4/3
Card Text: Dumah can't be the target of spells or abilities.
All damage dealt to Dumah is prevented.
3: Target player may target Dumah this turn.
2: Dumah gains flying, fear, first strike or trample until end of turn.
Flavor Text: "Why I thank you, brother" - Dumah
Artist:
Rarity: R
Card #: 126/163

Card Name: Dumahim (type 2)
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: 1GUB
Type & Class: Creature - Vampire
Pow/Tou: 3/2
Card Text: Trample.
Dumahim (type 2) can't be the target of spells or abilities.
Flavor Text:
Artist:
Rarity: U
Card #: 127/163

Card Name: Dumahim (type1)
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: GUB
Type & Class: Creature - Vampire
Pow/Tou:
Card Text: 2: Dumahim (type1) can't be the target of spells or abilities until end of turn.
Flavor Text:
Artist:
Rarity: C
Card #: 128/163

Card Name: Kain
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: 5BR
Type & Class: Creature - Vampire Legend
Pow/Tou: 4/6
Card Text: Protection from White
At the Beginning of each players upkeep, that player sacrifices a non-vampire creature. Ariel, Balance Guardian cannot be sacrificed this way.
Provoke First Strike
Flavor Text:
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Rarity: R
Card #: 129/163

Card Name: Melchiah
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: 3BGW
Type & Class: Creature - Vampire Legend
Pow/Tou:
Card Text: Fading 10 (Melchiah comes into play with 10 fade counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a fade counter from it. If you can't, sacrifice it.)
4,T: put a fade counter on Melchiah
Prevent 1 damage dealt to Melchiah from any source.
Flavor Text:
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Rarity: R
Card #: 130/163

Card Name: Melchiahim (type 1)
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: BGW
Type & Class: Creature - Vampire
Pow/Tou: 1/2
Card Text: whenever a source deals damage to Melchiahim (type 1), prevent 1 of that damage dealt to it.
Flavor Text:
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Rarity: C
Card #: 131/163

Card Name: Melchiahim (type 2)
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: 1BGW
Type & Class: Creature
Pow/Tou:
Card Text: Fading 3 (Melchiahim (type 2) comes into play with 3 fade counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a fade counter from it. If you can't, sacrifice it.)
Prevent 1 damage dealt to Melchiahim (type 2) from any source.
Melchiahim (type 2)'s power and toughness are each equal to the number of Fade counters on Melchiahim (type 2)
Flavor Text:
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Rarity: U
Card #: 132/163

Card Name: Nosgothic Fires
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: 2RG
Type & Class: Enchantment
Pow/Tou:
Card Text: All creatures you control gain haste.
Sacrifice Nosgothic Fires: All creatures you control gain +2/+2 and trample until end of turn.
Flavor Text:
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Rarity: U
Card #: 133/163

Card Name: Priestess
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: 2UB
Type & Class: Creature - Legend
Pow/Tou: 2/4
Card Text: At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice a creature, or pay UU. If you paid UU gain control of target creature. Sacrifice that creature at end of turn.
Flavor Text:
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Rarity: R
Card #: 134/163

Card Name: Rahab
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: 4UB
Type & Class: Creature - Vampire Legend
Pow/Tou: 7/3
Card Text: Islandhome
Islandwalk
U: Target land becomes a island until end of turn.

Flavor Text:
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Rarity: R
Card #: 135/163

Card Name: Rahabim (type 1)
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: UB
Type & Class: Creature - Vampire
Pow/Tou: 2/4
Card Text: Islandhome (This creature can't attack unless defending player controls a Island. When you control no Island, sacrifice this creature.)
Flavor Text:
Artist:
Rarity: C
Card #: 136/163

Card Name: Rahabim (type2)
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: 2UB
Type & Class: Creature - Vampire
Pow/Tou: 4/3
Card Text: Islandhome (This creature can't attack unless defending player controls a Island. When you control no Island, sacrifice this creature.)
Islandwalk (This creature is unblockable as long as defending player controls a Island.)
Sacrifice a Island: Target lands type becomes the land type ofyour choice until end of turn.
Flavor Text:
Artist:
Rarity: U
Card #: 137/163

Card Name: Raziel, Reaper of souls
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: 4WB
Type & Class: Creature - Vampire Legend
Pow/Tou: 5/5
Card Text: When Raziel, Reaper of souls comes into play, choose a color.
Raziel, Reaper of souls has protection from the color of your choice.
Flying, Fear, First strike
1B: Regenrate Raziel, Reaper of souls
Flavor Text:
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Rarity: R
Card #: 138/163

Card Name: Razielim (type 1)
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: WB
Type & Class: Creature - Vampire
Pow/Tou: 1/2
Card Text: Flying
B: Regenerate Razielim (type 1)
Flavor Text:
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Rarity: C
Card #: 139/163

Card Name: Razielim (type 2)
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: 2WB
Type & Class: Creature - Vampire
Pow/Tou: 3/2
Card Text: Flying, Trample.
B: Regenerate Razielim (type 2)
Flavor Text:
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Rarity: U
Card #: 140/163

Card Name: Sticking Suckers
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: 1BG
Type & Class: Enchant Creature
Pow/Tou:
Card Text: Enchanted creature gains Climbing. (This creature may only be blocked by flying and/or climbing creatures.)
Flavor Text:
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Rarity: C
Card #: 141/163

Card Name: Turel
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: 4BR
Type & Class: Creature - Vampire Legend
Pow/Tou: 2/5
Card Text: Whenever a creature dealt damage by Turel this turn is put into the graveyard, put a +1/+1 counter on Turel.
T: Do damage to target creature equal to the power of Turel.
Flavor Text: "Your insults will do nothing to blunt the agonies of your demise!"- Turel
Artist:
Rarity: R
Card #: 142/163

Card Name: Turelim (type 1)
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: BR
Type & Class: Creature - Vampire
Pow/Tou: 0/4
Card Text: T: Turelim (type 1) deals 1 damage to target creature or player.
Flavor Text:
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Rarity: C
Card #: 143/163

Card Name: Turelim (type 2)
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: 2BR
Type & Class: Creature - Vampire
Pow/Tou: 1/5
Card Text: Whenever a creature dealt damage by Turelim (type 2) this turn is put into the graveyard, put a +1/+1 counter on Turelim (type 2).
T: Turelim (type 2) deals 1 damage to target creature or player.
Flavor Text:
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Rarity: U
Card #: 144/163

Card Name: Vampire Hunter
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: 2GW
Type & Class: Creature - Soldier
Pow/Tou: 3/3
Card Text: Protection from Vampires.
Attacking doesn't cause Vampire hunter to tap
At the beginning of your upkeep, pay GW or sacrifice Vampire Hunter.
Flavor Text:
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Rarity: R
Card #: 145/163

Card Name: Zephon
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: 4BG
Type & Class: Creature - Vampire Legend
Pow/Tou: 4/4
Card Text: Climbing
2: Put a 1/1 green/black Zephonim Token into play. This Token has Climbing.
Flavor Text: "You don't look to handsome yourself, brother" - Zephon
Artist:
Rarity: R
Card #: 146/163

Card Name: Zephonim (type1)
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: BG
Type & Class: Creature - Vampire
Pow/Tou: 1/2
Card Text: Climbing (this creature may only be blocked by flying and/or climbing creatures.)
Flavor Text:
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Rarity: C
Card #: 147/163

Card Name: Zephonim (type2)
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: 2BG
Type & Class: Creature - Vampire
Pow/Tou: 3/3
Card Text: Climbing (This creature may only be blocked by flying and/or climbing creatures.)
Flavor Text:
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Rarity: U
Card #: 148/163

By The Pentavus (Karonasservant) on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 11:32 am:

Card Name: Artifical Wall
Card Color: X
Mana Cost: 0
Type & Class: Artifact
Pow/Tou: 0/4
Card Text:
Flavor Text: The people of the Human Citidel didn't expect the vampire to enter... no one did until they saw one themselves.
Artist:
Rarity: U
Card #: 149/163

Card Name: Genesis Timer
Card Color: X
Mana Cost: 6
Type & Class: Artifact
Pow/Tou:
Card Text: All players may play more than 1 land per turn.
All Players may play no more than 3 lands per turn.
All players may play lands from their graveyard as if it was in their hands.

Flavor Text:
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Rarity: R
Card #: 150/163

Card Name: Soul Reaver
Card Color: X
Mana Cost: 7
Type & Class: Legendary Artifact - Equipment
Pow/Tou:
Card Text: Equip Cost 4.
Whenever equiped creature deals combat damage to a creature, put a +1/+1 counter on that creature.
Whenever a creature dealt damage by a creature with Soul Reaver equiped to them, remove that creature from the game.

Flavor Text:
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Rarity: R
Card #: 151/163

Card Name: Bog
Card Color:
Mana Cost:
Type & Class: Land - Swamp
Pow/Tou:
Card Text: This counts as a non-basic land.
Discarda card from your hand, T: Add BBB to your mana pool. Bog deals 1 damage to you.
Flavor Text:
Artist:
Rarity: U
Card #: 152/163

Card Name: Timestreaming Device
Card Color: X
Mana Cost: 4
Type & Class: Legendary Artifact
Pow/Tou:
Card Text: T: Take an extra turn after this one.
Timestreaming Device doesn't untap during its controller's untap step.
Timestreaming Device can't be the target of spells or abilities.
Pay 10 life: Untap Timestreaming Device
Flavor Text:
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Rarity: R
Card #: 153/163

Card Name: Abyss
Card Color:
Mana Cost:
Type & Class: Basic Land - Abyss
Pow/Tou:
Card Text: T: Add P to your mana pool.
Flavor Text:
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Rarity: L
Card #: 154/163

Card Name: Forest
Card Color:
Mana Cost:
Type & Class: Basic Land - Forest
Pow/Tou:
Card Text:
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Artist:
Rarity: L
Card #: 155/163

Card Name: Island
Card Color:
Mana Cost:
Type & Class: Basic Land - Island
Pow/Tou:
Card Text:
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Artist:
Rarity: L
Card #: 156/163

Card Name: Mountain
Card Color:
Mana Cost:
Type & Class: Basic Land - Mountain
Pow/Tou:
Card Text:
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Artist:
Rarity: L
Card #: 157/163

Card Name: Plains
Card Color:
Mana Cost:
Type & Class: Basic Land - Plains
Pow/Tou:
Card Text:
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Artist:
Rarity: L
Card #: 158/163

Card Name: Swamp
Card Color:
Mana Cost:
Type & Class: Basic Land - Swamp
Pow/Tou:
Card Text:
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Rarity: L
Card #: 159/163

By Xion on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 03:30 pm:

Don't add another color that would kill magic as we know it.

By The Pentavus (Karonasservant) on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 03:36 pm:

It's only there for places Xion. There will be no creatures, no anything but places with the Purple colour because it doesn't fit in the artifact theme and it doesn't work with the other colours.
Besides, is that ALL you can say...

By Squeeman on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 03:44 pm:

You know they can just be lands... right?

Just pretend that its old enough not to have to follow the stupid 'lands must produce some kind of mana' rule (or however that went, exactly). True the non-basic lands in Legends were pretty dismally bad, but they were still lands.

By The Pentavus (Karonasservant) on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 03:47 pm:

I wanted them to be able to play after lands. So you don't have to wait a turn to play them. But i'll take your advise for these "place" cards.
I like the mechanic behind them i must admit.

By Xion on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 03:57 pm:

Chronoplast is BROKEN for 0.

Nosgothic Flames= Fires of Yavimaya on steroids.

Timestreaming device is like my Staff of Xixill,only with too little of a drawback to be playable.

Desperation act: a little weak, make it 5 life or less.

Most of the others are playable...a little on the weaker side, but playable all the same.

By The Pentavus (Karonasservant) on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 04:03 pm:

I told you, there was a stupid card coming up, and note you gotta pay P though.
Thats why i wanted Purple.
Yes, i wanted to reprint Fires of Yavimaya, but theres no Yavimaya in the lands of Nosgoth.
Desperation act was just something i made whilst laughing. I decided a stupid card had to be in gold.

By Squeeman on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 04:07 pm:

You could make them enchant worlds.

By The Pentavus (Karonasservant) on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 04:08 pm:

Hmm... but that totally wastes the point. I don't want them targetd by any type ofdestruction... until the next cycle which uses Purple more...
I'll think carefully into places. VERY carefully.

By Squeeman on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 04:50 pm:

But to make them indestructible makes them unfair. Theoretically, there has to be SOME way to get rid of them, otherwise they are cheap and invincible.

By The Pentavus (Karonasservant) on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 04:56 pm:

The next cycle will haveplace destruction spells, don'tworry.
And you can counter them to.

By Cool Guy (Maraxus) on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 05:34 pm:

dont mean to be pickey but i like the way you spelled GOLD i really do.

By Squeeman on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 05:46 pm:

And I like the way you spelled picky.

By Xion on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 06:00 pm:

lol.

By The man who knew too little (Psycho) on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 05:09 am:

Isn't there a Vampiric little Pony or something in the land of Nosgoth?

By The Pentavus (Karonasservant) on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 08:17 am:

. . . no vampiric ponies.
And i spelt Gold, Glod because i'm a retard? nah. I spelt it like that on purpose (cough, hack, wheeze)

By The Pentavus (Karonasservant) on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 08:53 am:

Card Name: Desperation Act
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: WUBRG
Type & Class: Enchantment
Pow/Tou:
Card Text: At the beginning of your upkeep, if you have 5 life or less , you win the game.
Flavor Text:
Artist:
Rarity: R
Card #: 125/163

By Xion on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 02:13 pm:

Good job.

By Squeeman on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 02:37 pm:

Desperation act? I dunno. Coalition Victory was MUCH more conditional...

Make it fewer colors, but harder to achieve victory.

By The Pentavus (Karonasservant) on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 03:41 pm:

Card Name: Desperation Act
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: 3GW
Type & Class: Enchantment
Pow/Tou:
Card Text: At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control 20 or more creatures and 50 life, youwin the game.
Flavor Text:
Artist:
Rarity: R
Card #: 125/163
(Endurance and something else ><, i know the cards name somewhere.

By Squeeman on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 03:47 pm:

Then it really isn't an act of 'desperation' so much as beating the crap out of someone without using you already unfairly great resources.

Make it 1 life or something, and only if you control no creatures.

By The Pentavus (Karonasservant) on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 03:53 pm:

Card Name: Desperation Act
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: 1GW
Type & Class: Enchantment
Pow/Tou:
Card Text: At the beginning of your upkeep, if you have 1 or less life, you win the game.
Flavor Text: And so God said, let Squeeman make this, and Squeeman did. and God said it was good.
Artist:
Rarity: R
Card #: 125/163

By The Pentavus (Karonasservant) on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 03:55 pm:

Card Name: Desperation Act
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: 1GW
Type & Class: Enchantment
Pow/Tou:
Card Text: At the beginning of your upkeep, if you have 1 or less life and you control no creatures, you win the game.
Flavor Text: And so God said, let Squeeman make this, and Squeeman did. and God said it was good.
Artist:
Rarity: R
Card #: 125/163

By Squeeman on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 03:57 pm:

And it was so pleasing that it was said twice.

But actually, just make it "one life" as opposed to "one life or less" which means that you win automatically if you have a Nefarious Lich out.

By The Pentavus (Karonasservant) on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 03:58 pm:

. . .
Card Name: Desperation Act
Card Color: Z
Mana Cost: 1GW
Type & Class: Enchantment
Pow/Tou:
Card Text: At the beginning of your upkeep, if you have 1 and you control no creatures, you win the game.
Flavor Text: And so God said, let Squeeman make this, and Squeeman did. and God said it was good.
Artist:
Rarity: R
Card #: 125/163
Said twice because the first one missed something.

By The Pentavus (Karonasservant) on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 04:00 pm:

Also, show me how to play D & D >< (Been meaning to learn for sometime, but slips his mind) if you would... i'd rather do it either by MSN or Yahoo... if your willing to teach me Squeeman that is.

By Squeeman on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 04:17 pm:

Okaaaaaaaay...

On the most basic level:

There are several players. All but one of the players creates an imaginary character, based on a series of vague templates. The easiest way to define a character is based on race (i.e. species- such as humans, elves, dwarves, etc), and class (i.e. job- such as fighters, wizards, clerics, bards, etc). So an example of a character would be an elven fighter. But the possibilities are many.

The last of the players is called the "Dungeon Master" (DM). This person tells a story, creates a setting, and unravels scenarios. So basically, the DM creates scenarios, and the characters say how they want their characters to react.

Example:

DM: You are walking through the forest, when you come across a clearing. In the center of the clearing stands a white marble temple. What do you do?

Elf Fighter: Hmm. I don't trust it. I think we should continue, and pass it by.

Gnome bard: I say we explore it. you never know what there may be...

DM: While you are deciding what to do, a troop of zombies shambles out of the temple, and comes towards you.

Elf Fighter: Okay, I attack one of the zombies with my bow.

Dwarf Barbarian: I charge the first one with my axe.

Human Wizard: I'm going to hang back, and cast spells at them.


And so on. There are a bunch of dice rolls and stuff, just so that you don't hit automatically, and so that the DM can't hold really big grudges or anything... but those are really secondary, and the DM can take care of it.

There is MUCH more, and there are several rules (for example, a fighter cannot just cast spells on the fly, etc), but you don't need more than vague knowledge of them.

By The Pentavus (Karonasservant) on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 04:21 pm:

Ok.. easy enough said...
So... it's really just a roleplay? and you use Dice to decide damage and if you hit. DMs can just shove random monsters at you, and you'll be obliged toeither fight and/or run...
...
...
...
maybe i should just watch the D and D posts going on so far? (god, my spelling today is AWFUL ><)

By Squeeman on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 05:08 pm:

Yeah, its really just the MoaRPG.

As for combat, there are lots of choices you can make, but fleeing and running are probably the most common ones.

Another thing about D&D is that you have various stats on certain aspects of your character that determine this and that.

The main ones are:

Strength: (how strong you are)
Dexterity: (how graceful, coordinated and alert you are)
Constitution: (how much physical endurance you have)
Intelligence: (logic, general capacity to reason, knowledge)
Wisdom: (enlightenment, common sense)
Charisma: (likability, leadership skills, strength of character)

To hit: The higher this score is, the more likely your character is to hit a creature in combat

Armor Class: The higher your AC is, the harder it is to hit you in combat

Saving Throws (divided into reflex, will, and fortitude save): Your chance of avoiding magical or other non-combat dangers.

If you've ever played Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, or Neverwinter Nights- those are just computer game versions of D&D.

Yes... do watch the D&D game thats been going on. It may be helpful.

By Greven (Evercursed) on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 04:23 am:

Don't forget about the armour and equipment costs Squeeman, If you don't have the D&D rulebook, the stats and such could be found on Google (like what I did!)

By Squeeman on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 05:19 am:

Yes, but thats more complicated. I was giving the basic info. Thats really going more in depth. I've played simple campaigns with very little purchasing at all (we were just assigned our junk at the beginning).

By The Pentavus (Karonasservant) on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 12:02 pm:

ah...
complicated.. i'll take grevens advise forthe rulebook or steal it from a friend...
and i must say.. the stats look weird to me... i seen them from somewhere before, the Chaoticly Good and Chaoticly Evil things.
(Xions Evil Deity, how original...)